How long will we stay in this community?

Hey guys!

Since not a lot seems to be going down at CPAC at the moment, I think I want to take the opportunity to write a philosophy post. The topic is this – what’s the length of time that your average person in club penguin armies will spend here before moving on? After a lot of thinking (as a philosopher, of course), I’ve come to a few conclusions that I think you’ll find very interesting if you care to read on and hear what, quite possibly might become your future.

Let’s start from the beginning, shall we?

I don’t know much about the creation of armies, and who started it and what not, and believe it or not, it has probably taken place in club penguin since the game even started, because naturally, little kids lean towards thinking that being in an army is cool.

Some major armies were started up, and people started creating websites for the armies, the smarter ones of course. Forums were probably used a lot, and of course, then came long good old xat, our trustworthy chat service which has sustained us for such a long time now.

Now, I joined armies in early 2008 / late 2007 and it’s my belief that, those times were when things really started to kick off for Club Penguin armies. More and more recruits were pulled in, people were appointed as leaders, co leaders, 3rd in commands, and so on, and the whole system was becoming more complex, yet back then, we were all little kids, and so the whole thing was actually still blissfully simple, as we look back on it now.

This brings me onto a main point for this post. We can all clearly see this army community has expanded into huge proportions, having successful websites, organisation, scheduling for battles, proper formats for battles, and even a media website. I argue that this could have not happened earlier on, and this was because we were all young children. Now, when people retire from armies when they “think” they get too old (We’ll get onto that later), they supposedly leave someone younger, fresher in charge, as they abandon ship on the army community. Why then, has everything expanded and grown so much under the leadership of new people?

It’s because they were never really left behind by their predecessors. They came back for them. It’s what happens in armies, isn’t it? As a Nacho, I’d use Puckley as a fine example for this case. He got into a position of power in 2008 or 09 sometime, and became a great leader, although still not extremely efficient at leading (neither were the rest of us). But, when Puckley retired, at one point he decided to come back for this community. And under his leadership the nachos have become ever more efficient and organised. The key point to remember here is that Puckley is older now than he was before, so he can work out now how to make things a lot better in Nachos.

This one example expands to the rest of us. Our old leaders retire, and then they come back again. They expect not to, but they do. And, thus, since the young generation of 08 never REALLY left, five years on, in ’13, we’re all a hell of a lot more intelligent and able to comprehend how to successfully co-ordinate an army community as we do. So, this proves that, in a way the reason we’ve developed so much, the reason we’ve become what we’ve become is because we’ve grown up together. And remember, when we have nostalgia on the past from when we were little kids throwing snowballs we only regard that as more fun than what we do now at some points because it was fun for the kids that we were back then, however, now, we’re willing to take this community a lot more seriously, and as we are looking constantly for ways to improve it we tend to look to our past to help us, which is kind of wrong.

My next point is this – why do we keep coming back? Why can’t we retire, leave and get on with our lives? In some cases, this is how it is, but in a vast majority of the cases of people that were in armies in years such as 2008, we’re all actually still here. I think, personally, that the reason we constantly return is that although we might try to ignore it, this community is intertwined much deeper than we might think into our minds, our personalities, and most importantly, our lives.

This means that, when looking back on the past and thinking of what has been in your life so far, club penguin armies will always remain a huge part of your life, no matter how you try to put it. From the day you signed up back in the day, Club Penguin Armies became a part of your life. It’s this change to our life that helps us recognize and become who we are, and it is simply too difficult to ignore who we are. I know that I came back to this community after about 4 years because I really could not stop thinking about it, ever. I always reminisced on what my life used to be back then and I wanted to experience it again. When something is a large part of our lives we often find it very hard to let go. Therefore, this is most likely the culprit of why people won’t stop coming back to club penguin armies.

And so, I am on to discussing my final point. What will be our future?

When we think about our future in Club Penguin armies, we often imagine that there isn’t any. We think, “Oh, I’ll grow up and retire forever and that’ll be that and I’ll become a different person suddenly, because that’s what’s normal.” Let’s analyse that last past of that made-up quote.  “That’s what’s normal” suggests that we already have the experience of seeing 13, 14 and 15 year olds leaving in the past for a while, while, in actual fact, those who joined armies in 2008, 09, 10, whatever, are about to become normality.

We assume sub-consciously that there have been countless others among us who have been able to leave with ease once they reach a certain age, when in actual fact, we are the ones who will be setting examples here. We are the first generation. And, in my personal viewpoint, I do think that we will stick around in armies at least all of our teenage years, even a little into adulthood until proper jobs start. And even then, who knows. WAIT A SECOND. DON’T PROTEST WHEN YOU READ THAT. JUST HEAR ME OUT.

Think about what I’ve said already in this post. I’ve detailed how, as we’ve grown older together in this community, we’ve molded it and perfected it to become a society to keep up with the growing generation. What’s to say this won’t keep happening? What’s to say that as we grow a lot older, adult, and more intelligent, we don’t start involving adult aspects to Club Penguin armies such as having a real life workforce and Headquarters, or start using money or other currency in club penguin armies? Who knows what will happen to us next and how we will change our society to suit us? You and I don’t, because we don’t think like our future selves yet, so we can’t know until we get there.

And if you try arguing that we’ll leave before we have a chance to make a perfect society for ourselves, remember what I said in the second part of the post about how we’ll have our ups and downs, but we’ll always return because Club Penguin armies are always intertwined in our lives? That solves that part of the problem too. So I think it’s very easy for us to be able to set an example for people to come after us in Club Penguin armies (If there will be, who knows),  and since we’re the first generation we can handle this community however the hell we like.

Some of you might be realizing some truth in what I say and might be starting to freak out, thinking that you might be trapped into your later life in Club Penguin armies, but I just say, sit back and enjoy the ride and enjoy your life for what it is. After all, we are the first ones to do this and we makes the rules now.

Hope you guys enjoyed this philosophy post, if there’s anything you’ d like to add or discuss please do so in the comments section!

Thanks for reading and I’ll see you next time!

6789cool – CPAC Reporter and Philosopher


12 Responses

  1. What you are saying is quite correct, however I think the growing trend of the Generation of ’08 never leaving is also influenced by the trend of the lessening intelligence of the newer generations (thus, no one for the retirees to pass their armies onto). In all seiousness, had I found a willing successor (other than B1) I’d have long ago left this job and passed to torch to a new generation. But there are fewer and fewer people these days willing to actually work for little reward. This issue is echoed by leaders who cannot find owners, and all across armies.

    A sad day indeed, when all of us grow up, and no on remains to take our place. This, indeed, is why training apprentices and protegés is all the more important.


    • You speak a great truth.

      However, if we hadn’t created such a massive, hard to handle and complex society in the first place it would have been easy to leave other noobs in charge, so I guess we kinda dropped ourselves in that one.


  2. You should really add some pictures.


  3. “My next point is this – why do we keep coming back? Why can’t we retire, leave and get on with our lives? In some cases, this is how it is, but in a vast majority of the cases of people that were in armies in years such as 2008, we’re all actually still here. I think, personally, that the reason we constantly return is that although we might try to ignore it, this community is intertwined much deeper than we might think into our minds, our personalities, and most importantly, our lives.”

    My God.. you’ve just said what I’ve been thinking for the past few years perfectly.

    I’ve been trying to leave armies since 2010. Each time there’s a friend that contacts me, and I get dragged back. Armies being such a large part of my childhood, I feel like if I leave I’d leave every chance of ever enjoying those good times behind also. I think that’s also a large part of why people don’t leave, they miss the good old times and are looking for them again.


  4. Good post, yeah I pretty much agree with everything you said. I wasn’t here awfully long, so I guess I’ll be here for a long time then!


  5. I think the post has a bit of a patronizing tone, but whatever. I agree with most of this post actually. We can’t let go, because there isn’t anyone to take our place. We seem like a thriving community at first glance, but in truth this maybe our last generation. I agree with Blue finding apprentices is crucial. I don’t know about you, but I want my kids to play CP armies. And theirs as well. I want all the sites/armies to be around for a very long time with new staff, of course. I want the legends of today, to be remembered tomorrow. So that one day when I’m old and senile I can come back to CPAC click on a legends page, and see the legacy of all the people I play this game with. Your right about how intertwined this game is with all of our lives. The reason we cannot leave is we can not bear to see this community die. To see the sites abandoned. I have made many friends and many memories during my time here. But what’s the point of creating a community if it dies with us?


  6. Every time I try leaving, I come back. I left in summer 2012, then came back in August. I thought about it everyday!!!


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