Why Government Is The Stupidest Thing Ever Invented In Armies

Hi, my name is Buritodaily, better known as Burr and today I’m going to be giving you my voice and opinion on the personal annoyance that is Government and how they affect our community. Read on if you care to hear what think.

I plan to be very straight forward in this post. Lately I’ve noticed all this effort armies have put into perfecting their government and making their views on “society” known. Well, I’m going to cut straight to the chase. ACP, UMA, SWAT, IW, and all you other armies who claim to be a democracy or communist or anything of that matter. I hate to burst your bubble, but you’re all dictatorships. “But Burr, it clearly states on our nation page that we are a free democratic republic!” It may say that on the screen, but government isn’t decided by words, it is decided by actions.

Let’s start off with UMA and their supposed “Communist” government. First off, the simple fact you claim that Communism is your government is already flawed. Communist has to do with the economy. Communism is just a dictatorship with a twist on how the people’s money is handled. Here in Club Penguin armies, we don’t have money, currency, or anything of that matter. We aren’t even countries. We are armies, further proving that governments are pointless. UMA, like everyone else, is a dictatorship. You have the leaders and owners who make nearly every decision in the war and who control nearly everything. Dictatorship. If you were truly communist, you would have a small hand full of owners in control with the rest being members of the same rank which you don’t.

Let’s move on shall we? For my second army I would like to speak about all these armies that claim to be a free democracy. The biggest example that comes into mind is ACP who often formally state themselves as DRACP. Let me explain a democracy. In a democracy, the people, or the Republic has the vote and the say on what goes down in the nation. Or in this case the army. Let’s be real ACP, you aren’t letting all your mods and certainly not your members make the decisions in your army. You, just like all the other armies who claim to be a democracy have the leader making the decision with the help of the owners. Dictatorship. This summary also complies with other armies who claim to be a democracy such as IW.

Here is my honest opinion. No government is the best government! No, I don’t mean an Anarchy. (Nation with no government or laws to be enforced. Basically everyone is on their own.) I mean to forget the idea of government and think about some more important issues. We all basically run the same way. Leaders lead and troops listen. Two examples of armies off the top of my head that don’t toy around with government are the Nachos army and the Army of the Republic. Both either don’t mention government or make it clear they don’t care for it in any way. Focus on the army and the battles guys, not your “government.”

Now I am aware some armies claim to be other governments, but in reality those who claim to be neither a Democracy or Communist are just dictators with fancy names. 😆 Also, some of the leaders in this community have to learn the difference between a Government type and an Economy mindset. If you see “Capitalism” in the name, you are most likely heading in the wrong direction.

Now, I understand why some armies claim to be a democracy, or even communist. It looks good to the new recruits right? They see a democracy and they think everything good and nice. Or they see Communist and think they are apart of something special and different. Let’s face it. You are all dictatorships, but wait! I am not saying there is anything wrong with being a dictatorship. Think about it, most armies in the world are. The troops in wars don’t vote on what they do. They don’t vote on what and when they invade and how they invade it. That’s the job of those in charge and at the top. Just like all of our armies work. So please leaders, be real with yourself and stop toying around with all these different type of governments. You’re wasting your time as in reality, no one cares what type of government you are.

In my opinion, government should be forgot about all together. Armies don’t need governments. We know who the leaders are, we know who makes the decisions. It is as simple as that.Why complicate a game made for children by bringing the world of politics into it? It’s all around pointless. Yes, I realize I was very straight forward in this post. I am really hoping no one whines about me being “biased” because it always seems there has to be that one person who feels the urgency to complain about every post no matter the topic. This was simply a view point I personally always had on government and its role in armies and I am trying to see if any people feel the same way.

So, do you agree or not? Let me hear from YOU in the comments below. Thank you for reading!

~Buritodaily

81 Responses

  1. First 😀

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  2. I’d argue that most older, established armies are oligarchies or aristocracies—pure dictatorships are extremely rare these days.

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    • hi oagal

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    • unless it’s lord pain

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    • OAGALTHORP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😀 I’M YOUR BIGGEST FAN! CAN I HAVE AN AUTOGRAPH!? O.O

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    • I’d agree with that Oagal, although I did say they were forms of dictatorship, which you could argue that oligarchies or aristocracies are. However ACP often refers to themselves as DRACP or “the Democratic Republic of the Army of Club Penguin” which we both can agree is untrue correct?

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      • Actually when Commando and I first started governments (sorry guys), the government of an army was meant to function as an entirely different entity—the armies themselves ran like real world armies, but the servers were “governed” my this pseudo-branch of the armies. More than anything it was meant to be a fun thing to occupy soldiers during times of peace.

        As for the ACP, once the government began to merge into the infrastructure of the army proper I wanted to change it from the DRACP to the OACP (Oligarchy of the ACP) or something like that.

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        • Well obviously you would know your history better than me, although I’m confused on how you could have an Oligarchy with no measure of currency?

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          • An oligarchy simply entails having a small class of ruling elite (the ownership, in this case, or a council) who rule over the rest of the nation/army. Doesn’t mean the subjects don’t have positions of power, they just don’t rule the army/country. Actually, this is what most army governments can really be boiled down to.

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    • Rarely has ACP–or any army for that matter–have followed the oligarchical ways. For the most part, they’ve had one leader at a time who has control over all of the decisions, and can’t be overturned by members, mods, or even fellow owners..

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  3. As an 11 year old, governments.. are.. BORING.

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  4. and governments for CP armies? Ohmahlord

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  5. Communism isn’t dictatorship. Also, the only governments are Oligarchies if you were to look at how armies are run. Pain is the only one that can run a successful dictatorship.

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  6. Does it really matter what sort of Goverment armies have?

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  7. I was going to make 3 posts on something similar to this. Governments, Spy Agencies and Training Regiments but then I gave up on it.

    Your points are pretty much all correct. It’s great having Senators, Representatives and Dukes of all your servers but what’s the point when the only time Government is mentioned every 3 or 4 months? This is why I despise the thought of PRA being a legendary army. They weren’t anything special other than creating the 1st government and that failed.

    Great post Burr.

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  8. Y’know some of us find the ‘excessive complication’ or army politics to be quite interesting…

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  9. Do we really need governments in CP armies? Next we’re all going to have credit cards to spend on weapons (wary).

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  10. UMA has barely used communism without Wgfv. Good post, however.

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  11. What’s with all the new authors recently?

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  12. There’s no point in “Government” in CP armies…that’s just too far

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  13. I never really used government when I led armies. I just yolo’d it.

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  14. UMA is a monarchy, fight me after school.

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    • That makes no sense, unless leadership power is passed down to the offspring of the current king, a king who would have to serve for 30 or so years until death.
      Sounds like Iceyfeet’s kinda job.

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  15. Good post, I concur with the main point you give us on how “government” as we define it here in his community should not be considered important to the army’s success. However, indeed, dictatorship is a form of governance in itself. Of course, here, our successful “dictatorships” usually are reasonable in hearing and accepting at least some of what their troops and higher ranks tell them. Whenever the government of an army has its power spread out so thinly, things often fall apart over time, due to internal fighting because of immaturity. Democracy works better in real life overall, but whenever there are teams/sports such as CP armies that compete purposely, there does need to be a reasonable hierarchy of power, and this is basically our own “dictatorship.”

    And BTW, I agree with you that UMA has never been communist. I’m sure that Wgfv’s UMA did not spread its own army “currency”.with complete equality, and any great army won’t have a full communist functioning, either. Wg’s UMA was good in spite of the fact they thought they were communist.

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  16. It’s just a way for 12 year old kids to make themselves feel smart. Government serves no real purpose in armies. Zak has the right idea. But, even if Government was abolished completely, there would still be crap ton of politics in this game. I’d actually venture to say what we do has more to do with politics then with the actual battles themselves.

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  17. This would probably be more of an editorial.

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  18. Why Government is the Most Stupid Thing Ever Invented in Armies**

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  19. I don’t really find it stupid at all, governments were created to manage a run things, who cares if its flawed or isn’t the same as the governments in the real world, as long as it manages and keeps order in an army its fine, and if you got a problem with it then don’t have a government.

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    • But they don’t… ACP doesnt take votes on all it’s decisions and who comes to power. The only thing they vote on is 3ic. UMA doesn’t make everyone member then develop it’s own currency to run and manage everyone equally.

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  20. Some “armies” are really just server governments. There’s nothing wrong with that. My nation, the Snowy River Council, is a Democracy because all the members vote on decisions. Not all armies are dictatorships.

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  21. We established governments in CP Armies because we need a system to work out problems and get things done. If you get time, try looking up what Wgfv’s definition of Communism was in armies. Just because a kind of government is one way in real life doesn’t mean we can’t add our own things to it to make it work in armies, which is what he did with UMA.

    Let’s take a look at HowStuffWorks explains communism, “Simply put, communism is the idea that everyone in a given society receives equal shares of the benefits derived from labor.”. When Communism was brought into armies for the first time it was used to make everyone equal. Therefore, people who weren’t even active or contributing to the army got promotions, because “everyone in a given society recieves equal shares of the benefits derived from labor”. This gave the new recruits a sense of hope and they stayed in the army to continue taking advantage of their continuous promotions on promo day. This is how some people who were successful in recent years were brought up into power, and without it armies would be much different.

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  22. communism isnt an economy it is how a country is governed. For example China is communist but it has a capitalist economy.

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    • The idea of communism is to give everyone the same wealth. In other words, the government controls the economy and how much everyone makes and earns. Those in charge are forms of dictators.

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    • Every world economy is somewhere between pure capitalist and pure socialist. The USA is very near the middle. China used to be far on the socialist side, but now they’re moving toward the capitalist side.

      Also, government and economy are very closely related. Even in a pure capitalistic society, the fact that it had remained capitalist would have ultimately been a government decision.

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      • In other words, communism is a form of economy AND government.

        Capitalism is a form of economy that is therefore decided my government, Therefore, capitalism is kind of a form of government, in that it greatly affects and is greatly affected by government.

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        • True, however I think China is a poor example of Communism. China isn’t pure communist because they realized it was going to fail with the situation the USSR exemplified. Technically the economy does directly affect the government, but then again, this doesn’t have much to do with my post. xD

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  23. […] was recently inspired after reading Buritodaily’s post on CPAC, entitled, “Why Government is the Stupidest Thing Ever Invented in Armies.” In his post, Buritodaily argues that government cannot truly exist and that all armies are […]

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  24. ‘Communism is just a dictatorship with a twist on how the people’s money is handled.’ Any country that adopts communism is supposed to be democratic, it just doesn’t pan out that way, most of the time.

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  25. i wanna suck burr’s ghostly cock

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  26. The RPF pulled off a pretty good democracy back in the day.

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  27. “I’m going to be giving you my voice and opinion on the personal annoyance that is Government and how they affect our community. Read on if you care to hear what I think.”

    I stopped reading from there. No one cares about what your dumb brain thinks.

    bad post. 2/10

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  28. CP armies only have governments because the whole origin of CP warfare was created by kids, who wanted something to do and something to add to their fun. Governments just rubbed off with every generation of new leaders, and eventually became more serious and serious. So unless you’re going to look into the actual creation of governments within CP warfare, I find this post a bit… silly.
    But it’s good, nonetheless.

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  29. If people really want government ideas, they should try meritocracies or aristocracies.

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  30. Lmao, Army Republic has a goverment in their name. xD

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