Anti Tactics Movement

Hello CPAC Readers,

Over the years our army community has grown, and we’ve become a huge, organized group of people who schedule times and battle at random servers. We’ve developed tactics that were thought to be impossible back in 2007, such as making a perfect line or circles with everyone spamming the same emote. However, these tactics create an environment that make rogues harder to join the army.

A screenshot of the UMA in 2007 from my old friend, 999pingu111.

What do you see here? A perfect line with emotes being spammed?  Idle troops who do nothing but dance? No. We see warriors. We see troops. We see actual war.

I believe we should go back to the times where tactics never existed. Just countless snowballs flying all over the place. One thing that pisses me off the most are the troops who DANCE. We log on to fight, not to go a.f.k. and party. Another problem is that we all wait until a leader orders you to spam emotes or make formations. Troops shouldn’t have to wait for orders at all. We require constant chanting and voluntary actions.

Another thing recent troops lack on is imagination, which is probably because Club Penguin army warfare is now mostly made up of 10~15 year old kids who are starting to mature. Words such as, “SLASHES”, “PUSHES”, “HITS”, “GRABS”, used to be said every time there was a war occurring on Club Penguin. However, those words are no longer being used anymore in current wars, which is why we need to get used to saying it to make it seem like a real war is going on.

One of the main reasons why the old Club Penguin warfare deceased is because of Disney. Disney ruined the Dojo, which used to be one of the most common rooms where Club Penguin wars took place in. Not only that, but Disney also filtered many words which prevented us from spreading out site and whatnot. Though, there are some ancient rooms that have not been touched by Disney. Those rooms are the pool and the boiler room. We should use these rooms to the fullest by fighting our wars in those specific rooms, although that is only my opinion.

I retired in 2010, and 3 years later I decided to come back to revive the old Club Penguin warfare. Why? Because I felt like Club Penguin warfares needed to go back in time a little bit. I have been thinking about this project for a couple of months now, and I decided to create the Revival Force for the sole purpose of reviving Club Penguin warfare. However, one army cannot change the whole Club Penguin warfare community, which is why it is time to actually get the project going by involving armies from all over the world. I introduce you, the Anti Tactics Movement.

Anti Tactics Movement [ATM]

  1. Dancing during wars will be prohibited.
  2. Lines and Complicated Tactics –spamming mass emotes, making lines and circles– will be banned unless it is an official tournament held by CPAC or CPSMAC or a simple practice battle.
  3. Firing Snowballs will be the main “tactic” that will be used. (Ex. Hold Fire, Fire, Fire at will.)
  4. Joke bombs will be banned for the first couple of weeks. (If a major proportion of the army community disagrees with this term, it will be abolished.)

Regarding term number 2, if the army is too large and is unable to fit into the room, the army shall split into two rooms or more, depending on the army’s size. The opposing army will also have to split rooms to make sure a division is not unattended.

Regarding term number 3, emotes and ORGANIZED LINES will not be allowed during real wars. Practice battles and tournament battles held by the CPAC and CPSMAC are an exception.

Rogues will play a very important role in this project. Armies back then were mostly made out of rogues. Why can’t there be rogues now?

Once a majority of the Club Penguin armies join this Movement, we will schedule an ALL OUT WAR on one particular server (with the ATM terms activated) to see how this will turn out. Details will be announced on a future post by me. This movement will not take place unless 6/10 of the Top 10 major armies join the ATM.

ALL ARMIES are allowed to join this revolution. Entering the Anti Tactics Movement requires one of the army’s representative (leader) to comment the following on this post:

  1. Army Name
  2. Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small)
  3. Are you the sole representative of the army?
  4. If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement?
  5. Will you comply to the terms of the ATM?

Once you submit the following, you will be required to post an event (which will be announced soon on a different post on the CPAC by me) on the army site. Armies that sign up will be added to the list below.

Major Armies in the ATM:

  • Pirates (Confirmed on March 26th, 2013) 

Medium Armies in the ATM:

  • Revival Force (Confirmed on March 26th, 2013)
  • Rebel Penguin Federation (Confirmed on March 26th, 2013)

Small Armies in the ATM:

  •  Nochos (Confirmed on March 26th, 2013)
  • Shadow Troops (Confirmed on March 26th, 2013)

The Anti Tactics Movement’s official chat is http://xat.com/ATMCP. This chat was made only for leader meetings and other important discussions, so it will be inactive most of the time. For further questions regarding the Anti Tactics Movement, please contact Sid, Unknown, Qwerty, or Flipmoo.

Whether this movement is successful or not depends on the decisions of the army leaders.

We hope that this can change the warfare community back to the way it was before.

~Flipmoo

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65 Responses

  1. Rebel Penguin Federation oblige to the rules of ATM

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  2. Army Name & Status (Major, Medium, or Small) Revival Force, Medium.
    Are you the sole representative of the army? No.
    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? Yes.
    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? Yes.

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  3. Army Name & Status (Major, Medium, or Small) Small/Medium

    Are you the sole representative of the army?Yes, I’m the premier, there are other leaders which are below me.

    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? Yes

    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM?Yes

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  4. Army Name: Nochos of CP
    Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small) Small
    Are you the sole representative of the army? Yes
    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? I don’t really care if they do
    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? Surezies!

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  5. Great post, you actually did teach all the army leaders a lesson. I mean, tactics are lame if you ask me, I seriously hate going on CP and then performing tactics by pressing multiple random buttons for no income, let alone if we go for snowballs which is twice as much annoying. But, when you look at it another way, maybe this Anti Tactics Movement will work out and see some good results because looking at the apparent circumstances, this is the only choice left. It is considerable, regarding possibility, that there will be a major growth in armies and the so called return of real CP Warfare, which is all a probability.

    Great post!

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  6. People evolve, armies evolve. We can’t keep trying to drag ourselves back into early eras when clearly nothing catches on.

    At least someone spelled rogues right, for once.

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  7. Even going back to early 2007, tactics still existed. Oagalthorp always used a shoulder-to-shoulder formation and Shadow2446 used primarily lines. I’m all for the use of snowballs and attempts to minimize joke bombs/spamming/insults but banning formations doesn’t make sense. Banning all tactics including basic formations and lines is basically saying the ideal form of warfare is what the n00bs on Club Penguin do without any knowledge or concept of armies.

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  8. The thing is armies have revolutionized and are supposed to move forward, not move back. Another thing is that armies are more organized when they are in formations, and it is easier to tell who wins and who loses. I feel that this idea will bring back memories for people back then but it won’t be helpful in training the army to see their true sizes without all the rogues.

    I truly don’t agree with the movement, but I think it was a great topic to debate about.

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  9. You know what is the funny thing? I bet the ones disagreeing are going to be the major army leaders/owners, who have fun leading their army while the troops sit in complete boredom, obeying to gain a promotion. Look at Funks, having a great time watching how 20 clones do everything what he says on CP. This is probably the first chance for those troops to express themselves.

    Army Name: Pirates of CP (CPPA)
    Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small): Although we fell out of the last top ten, we still got 11th and we just got 25 last event. So major.
    Are you the sole representative of the army? No
    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? Yes (Bid is crazy about it)
    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? All but the banning of formations 🙂

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  10. What is this I don’t even…

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  11. No. Just, no.

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  12. Army Name Shadow Troops
    Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small) Small
    Are you the sole representative of the army? No
    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? Yes
    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? Yes

    Tbh, I’m wanted something like this for a while, and I’m happy Flip thought of it.

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  13. hello naw this is bullshit. They stuff we do in war now is fine. Useless post.

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  14. If u want a tactic thats interesting. Make penguins fly throwing fireworks.

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  15. Army Name: Dark Warriors

    Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small): Major

    Are you the sole representative of the army: No

    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement: Yes

    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? Yes

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  16. Poor idea, moving progress backward, won’t work, and anything else those before me have said applies.

    CPAC will not support and will simply see this as the army not doing tactics.

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    • In addition there is no one person or army who has the authority to ban tactics of any sort.

      Its like saying we should go back to fighting wars with swords because it was ‘more involved.’ It doesn’t make sense to push the march of time and progress backward.

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      • Glad CPAC has finally found something they don’t want to involve themselves in.

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        • im scared of CPWI’s three thousand views, you finally occupy .2% of the media majority *wary*

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          • Excellent use of the Chewbacca defense.

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            • Well technically, as you were pointing out the fault in my news site — that we “get involved in everything” — I find a need to point out the faults in yours. It’s a completely relevant comment, if you’d like to get into the politics of the pros and cons of each of our respective sites.

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  17. Army Name Light Defenders
    Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small) Small
    Are you the sole representative of the army? No
    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? Yes
    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? Of course

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  18. pew pew snowball rifles pew pew

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  19. Agreed?

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  20. WHATS SO FUN ABOUT THROWING A GAY SNOWBALL? IM CRING

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  21. LMAO. IT’S THE YEAR 2013, GRANDPA.

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  22. Army Name- ACP
    Army Status (Major, Medium, or Small) Major
    Are you the sole representative of the army? No
    If not, do the other leaders agree with this Movement? Yes
    Will you comply to the terms of the ATM? Of course

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  23. We aren’t taking a step back. Look at how far this community has come. Back then we were rogues, noobs and didn’t know what we were doing. You expect us to go down that path again. Also, armies will never be as big as they used to every again, deal with it.

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  24. Alright, I know this seems hypocritical that I did this, but I’m hating all of these people trying to bring back change to this army. CPAC: STOP BEING THE CP COUNCIL. You can’t deny it, your authors are thinking that CPAC has the power to drastically change CP armies. Get rid of this thinking.

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    • LMAO

      I’m sorry, but reading over this stuff, I just had to respond to this comment. At CPAC, we try to give our reporters to express new ideas in a thing known as philosophy, formerly known as a position called columnist, but being merged with the philosopher position to create what you see today. While CPAC does not have many (or really any) full-time philosophers, we do encourage our reporters and upper staff, at some points in time, to share their opinions. Flipmoo is a washed up old veteran, granted, and this idea might not be a good, but he’s a good guy with a good heart, and you cannot argue IMAF’s legendary status.

      I can deny it very easily, actually, because CPAC as a whole is not enforcing any of this, we are simply allowing our reporters to express their views. Yeah, I don’t support this idea. But just because I don’t like something doesn’t mean my staff shouldn’t be able to post it.

      CPAC doesn’t think they’re the council. CPAC just thinks we have the ability to put new ideas into people’s heads, to challenge the current thinking, to encourage a renaissance period, one which I believe is already taking place. We aren’t forcing anyone to do anything, which was the problem with your council. It’s also why the new council isn’t following the old rules. And, fundamentaly, it’s why CPAC has representatives. CPAC has representatives. They do not run the council, they have representatives in the council, equal — actually subordinate to any major army, as they have three representatives and we have two, but I digress — instead of having power over it, which we have never had. Infact, for the very reason of saving CPAC’s reputation, I dropped out of the council elections, so that I could remain with CPAC, and not have people believe CPAC ran the council after I took over it once again.

      In summary, CPAC isn’t a council, we’re a news site. I think that’s extremely clear. We’re not trying to impose anything here, a reporter is taking a shot at philosophy and asking for any of those who agree with him to comment their names here. Sure, this idea will fail, as you can see from the comments that have been sent here, but that’s irrelevant. This is all part of the creative process. And, after all, isn’t that what a news site is all about?

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      • I’m sorry for that rash comment, I was tired from my track practice. But I do want to see a less association with CPAC and the Council. Speaking of which, when the hell are you going to get those elections done?

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        • The elections were canceled for a few reasons. One, they had been labeled as a popularity contest. And two, I, as a former Head, saw that I was leading in the elections by some 10 votes. At this point in time, I reached the decision that I did not want to oversee the council, that I would rather stick with CPAC. So as the caretaker of the council site, I made the executive decision to appoint Tanman as head and leave it to him to appoint his cabinet and to decide how the new council will function. Currently, the only affiliations I have with the council is that I am advising Tanman as a Former Council Head and that I have applied for representative on behalf of CPAC. As far as I am aware, Tan is in the process of gathering representatives and getting the word out about the council.

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  25. This is monkey poop.

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  26. Here is my opinion. Well, this is an idea. However, as nearly everyone has said on this post, it is time to move on. Firstly, what is more satisfying to look at? Seeing your army grow every day, watching their tactics begin to look bigger and more awesome as the minute passes or throwing relentless amount of snowballs that no one can see anyway? Secondly, the fact that no one can see the snowballs clearly means that there will be lots of fights over what snowballs hit who. Thirdly, what is so interesting about being a leader anyway if all they can say is ‘OPEN FIRE’ or ‘FIRE AT WILL’? It would be like being a soldier just with the added chore of repeating the same things over and over again. Thirdly, as Boomer said, no formations would call for extreme disorganisation, and we would look like n00bs with no clue what to do.
    An interesting idea, but whether it would work is another thing. A very enticing debate has been brought up through this post however, which is interesting to see and it is satisfying to see debate posts come back up.

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  27. This is only for people that want it. If you don’t agree, no need to comment your ”rages”. It isn’t helping anyone. Oh and just for the people who think that you can’t win a battle without lines or tactics. There aren’t any rules, and even if they are. You can’t force us.

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  28. I wish this was put in place. There was nothing better than heading to Mammoth Dojo and just standing in a group throwing snowballs. Then the odd guy, running to the opposition and saying “kidnaps” or “slashes”. Before sprinting back to his side. That was when the actual warfare on CP was fun. Now it is just a show.

    I personally think more wars should be fought in the Pool and the Ice Berg as they are the two largest rooms you can fight in that haven’t been touched by Disney. (Bar the Aqua Grabber Game).

    I want this to be put in place but I know it won’t be.

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  29. Hello, Flip.

    I liked some parts. Yes, I do agree that snowball warfare is generally neglected, and that it made our game better back in the better days. We really do need this back in place; I agree. However, I unfortunately feel that your logic for wanting to go as far as creating a ban on the modern day tactics is hardly valid. The mass, unorganized, less forced formations commonly seen back in 2007-2008 did make the fighting fun for the more care-free and free-for-all ideal that came with it, but I don’t see how using line formations would prevent noobs from being likely to join an army. The more organized, stiff tactics and formations today have their own pros, and an ideal CP warfare would see a balance of the older and newer formations and tactics being used. However, I do believe the leaders that feel the need to actually name-call and truly scream to enforce the rigid tactics defeat the purpose of the game. So, ultimately, I strongly believe in moderation of older and newer systems of tactics, and I do oppose trying to actually ban newer tactics.

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  30. Enjoy your dance contests.

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  31. Problem is armies are all about show now. How are they going to show that it’s not just a load of rogues if there’s no tactics? I mean, that really doesn’t matter to me but most of the leaders of today weren’t “raised” (for lack of a better word) in the age where we didn’t stand in line and do emotes. That’s all they know, anything else just seems ridiculous to them, and they feel they need to prove themselves somehow.

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  32. I believe all that was asked for was people willing to participate, not comments on why it’s a bad idea.

    I must say, though, it seems CPAC’s reporters are beginning to think this is a place for gathering support for new ideas affecting the army community. They’re wrong. This is a news provider.

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  33. “2007 Club Penguin Warfare”

    THE MOST USELESS TAG EVER SEEN ON CPAC

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  34. This is like making the US Army go back and fighting the enemy in Civil War style – Standing in a huge line visible to the enemy and just fire at anything that moves. This is what you are doing right now to armies. .-.

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  35. To be really honest,

    This would only be fun if it were the COMMON armies that would do this, such as ACP vs Nachos or SWAT. Other than that, people will disagree.

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  36. If i was leading an army, I’d agree. Im sadly the only IW owner(that i know of) that agrees D:

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  37. Ace of Spades
    Small
    Yes

    Yes

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  38. I like the idea, except for banning formations in actual wars.

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  39. It’s amazing to look back and to see that our main way to have events now was once something that could have cost an army an arm and a leg.

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